Nothing to Fear but…

August 30, 2021

Getting fired sucks, there’s no way around it.

But even worse, getting fired can fill you full of fear and make it hard to ask for the help and support you need to get back out there and look for a job.

Recently, a skilled and respected member, Darla, a GM at a gaming company, was fired when a new boss came in and wanted to bring in his own people. 

Even though the firing was *not* a reflection on her skill, Darla still found it humiliating and certainly did not want to talk about it openly with her CG Council.

I understood but decided to share the story of another member with her (and with you now).

Meet Mark.

Mark is a CEO who, among other things, had run and grown an East Coast healthcare company to nearly $1 billion in revenue.

The company was owned by a Private Equity (PE) firm and  back in 2016 the owners decided they wanted a new CEO. 

Publicly, of course, Mark resigned. 

But privately, he was fired. 

I encouraged Mark to speak openly to his CG Council about what had happened and to ask for their help and input.

He didn’t like that idea.

PE firms fire CEOs all the time (especially if they have been in the role for a while). Mark knew this intellectually but emotionally he still feared that his peers would look down on him — that he would lose their respect.

I told him the opposite was true, but that he would not emotionally believe me until he took the risk to open up.

This is the Catch-22 of asking for help. When you need it the most, you think it’s the lastthing to do.

After several months, Mark decided to take a leap of faith and tell his council what had happened.

Before he could even finish his story, another CEO jumped in and said,  “Mark, it sounds like you are ashamed and feel alone. Let me be clear. Every one of us has been fired.”

Then this member looked around and said, “Isn’t that the case? Let’s go around the room and share our stories of being fired.”

And that’s what they did.

Every one of his fellow CEO members, including highly respected public company CEOs, shared how they each had been fired at one point in their careers.

Every      single      one. 

What did Mark do after everyone shared their stories?

He cried.

He cried a combination of joy that he was not alone and relief that he was not uniquely bad or inept. 

Then Mark went out to the marketplace with newfound confidence and found some great opportunities (he used my Social Search method, which involves asking for help at each step of the job search — this is all in my next book, which I’ll talk about soon). 

This experience was a real learning moment for Mark. 

Mark could’ve read 1,000 books and I could’ve told him 1,000 times about 1,000 CEOs who had been fired.

None of that would’ve had the same impact. 

You can know something, but not be able to act on that knowledge. 

On the other hand, asking for help from a small group of peers can bridge that knowing-doing gap and change you in ways that nothing else does.

So, I shared Mark’s story with Darla and encouraged her to speak openly to her CG Council.

Will Mark’s story be enough to get her to take the risk to open up and ask for help? 

I don’t know. 

She’s still thinking about it.

If you are facing a difficult situation and, like Darla, are afraid to ask for help, then please reach out to talk to me. 

I can at least help you consider asking for help.

For truly there’s nothing in your way except, FDR-style, fear itself.

Phyl

P.S. One of our two fall keynote speeches will be with the *wonderful* Teresa Torres – Tue, Sep 28 at 4pm ET. Email Britany to register. Register your teams to join too!

Fall Keynote

  • The What & Why of Continuous Discovery – Tue, Sep 28 @4pm ET
    Teresa Torres, Author, Speaker, and Product Discovery Coach
    Talk Type: Product
    Audience/Roles: All Roles

    To registerClick here to email Britany Chism (register your teams to join too!)

    Most product teams are starting to adopt discovery best practices (e.g. interviewing customers, usability testing, experimenting). However, many of us are still stuck in a project world. We do research to kick off a project, we usability test right before we hand off to engineers, and our primary means for experimenting is a/b testing. These methods are better than nothing, but the best product teams are shifting from a project mindset to a continuous mindset. In this talk, we’ll explore the key differences between project-based discovery and continuous discovery and give your team a clear benchmark to aspire to.

    Bio: Teresa Torres is an internationally acclaimed author, speaker, coach, and longtime friend of the Councils (she was a moderator of one of our Product Councils at one point). She’s coached hundreds of teams at companies of all sizes, from early-stage start-ups to global enterprises, in a variety of industries and has taught more than 7,000 through her Product Talk Academy. She’s the author of the recently published book, Continuous Discovery Habits, and blogs at ProductTalk.org.
     

Recent Talks and Activity Recordings

  • Clubhouse and the Audio Revolution (not recorded)
    Jonathan Ehrlich, Partner, Foundation Capital
    Talk Type: In the Moment 
    Audience/Roles: All Roles
     Two things to know about Jonathan Ehrlich:
    1) he co-led the seed round in Clubhouse and was thus the first venture capitalist to spot its potential;
    2) he’s a Councils alum with an interesting career arc.We held an informal conversation with Jonathan about Clubhouse, the future of audio, and Jonathan’s career journey from a mostly offline retailer in Canada to relocating to Silicon Valley and reinventing himself.—
    Bio
    —Jonathan Ehrlich is a Partner at Foundation Capital who invests in early early-stage consumer, marketplace, commerce, and SaaS startups and technologies. He joined Foundation Capital in 2013 as a partner after spending nine months with the firm as an entrepreneur-in-residence. Before joining Foundation Capital, Jonathan spent 17 years as an operator during which he founded three companies, built a $100M+ revenue business, and ran marketing for Facebook. He is the first institutional investor in Clubhouse and currently sits on the board of Bulletin and Chord. His Foundation and personal investments include Shelf Engine, Mainstreet, Truepill, Hooked, WayUp, League, Front, and Flexport. When not working, he can be found on his bike or chasing his four kids around.
     
  • No Ego, Part 2 (not recorded)
    Cy Wakeman, Best-selling Author and CEO
    Talk Type: Leadership Development, Culture
    Audience/Roles: All Roles
     We had a follow-up session with Cy last Friday that was amazing. We did NOT record it due to confidentiality. We will be planning more.

    In the meantime, you can watch the spring keynote with Cy, which was a GREAT session. Members loved it. I collected live case studies from members, which I anonymously shared with Cy to get her reaction on what was to be done. You gotta watch to see her great answers.

    Cy Wakeman is a drama researcher, global thought-leader, and New York Times best-selling author who is recognized for cultivating a counter-intuitive, reality-based approach to leadership. Backed by over 20 years of unparalleled experience, Wakeman’s philosophy offers a new lens through which employees and executives alike, can shift their attention inward, sharpen their focus on personal accountability, and uncover their natural state of innovation simply by ditching the drama.

    Deemed “the secret weapon to restoring sanity to the workplace,” Wakeman has helped companies such as Google, Facebook, Viacom, Uber, NBC Universal, NASA, Pfizer, Johns Hopkins, Stanford Health Care, Keurig Dr. Pepper, AMC Theatres, White Castle, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, and countless others learn to navigate our rapidly changing world using good mental processes to harness energy wasted in workplace drama and reinvest that effort into achieving profound business results.
     
  • Battle Buddies – A Way to Support Your Teams
    Craig Hopkins, CIO, City of San Antonio
    Talk Type: Leadership Development; Skill Builder/Practitioner
    Audience/Roles: All Roles

    We ran a short QnA-focused webinar with Craig to introduce an idea that has taken off in his org, the City of San Antonio, where he is the CIO.It’s called Battle Buddies. So, what is a Battle Buddy?Adapted from the US Army, a battle buddy is a partner assigned to an employee in an organization who is expected to assist his or her partner.Even though we are not in military combat, Craig says our corporate responsibilities can feel just as stressful and overwhelming at times.A battle buddy is not only intended for comradery and support, but also to help reduce stress, provide professional and leadership guidance, and at times, get into the trenches together to get things done. Since we will each be watching each other’s actions, we are all battle buddies to each other, as partners and as a leadership team, driven by our mission while adhering to our Core Values.Craig talked about how this has worked in his organization and how to set it up in yours.
     
  • JTBD in Large Distributed Environments
    Jay Haynes, Founder & CEO, thrv.com
    Talk Type: Product; Skill Builder/Practitioner
    Audience/Roles: All Roles

    Jobs To Be Done has proven to be an effective methodology for building much better holistic end-to-end products and customer experiences.

    *But* CG Council member companies with large distributed environments are finding it difficult to apply JTBD in effective ways.

    Jay Haynes, CEO of thrv, and a global expert on JTBD will come and speak to the Councils community on this specific challenge of using the methodology in large, complex technology environments.
     
  • Groundwork: Get Better at Making Better Products
    Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin, co-Authors of Groundwork
    Talk Type: Product
    Audience/Roles: All Roles

    Product leaders are all too familiar with the one to two-year period it typically takes to train and coach PMs. Product leaders hire smart people and then work with them individually, guiding them through how to think about product management, and watching them develop. Vidya Dinamani and Heather Samarin wanted a much faster way to help cultivate efficient and effective product managers that consistently create products that delight customers, regardless of the industry, the environment, and the development methodology that the team employed. They took years of experience as product executives and working with hundreds of teams as product coaches to create a framework to Get Better at Making Better Products.

    The design philosophy and methodology behind Groundwork was created to help product leaders be confident that their teams were committed to solving the right customer problems, minimizing costly rework by using individualized needs, and leveraging actionable personas in big and small product decisions. Vidya and Heather want Groundwork to help product teams have a much higher chance of success in the market—and help every product manager shine.

    Join Vidya and Heather as they share the background, principles, and methodology behind the Groundwork to help you, and your team, get better at making better products. 
     
  • Making the Case for Empowering Your People
    Marty Cagan, Partner, Silicon Valley Product Group
    Talk Type: Product, Leadership Development, Culture
    Audience/Roles: All Roles

    From Marty: “I have long been interested in the difference between how the best companies work, and the rest. Working with both types of organizations for so many years, there are many differences ranging from culture to process to staffing to roles to techniques. But at its core, strong product companies empower their people, and most of the rest do not. My focus over the past few years has been tackling this issue head-on, which means the product leadership. In this talk, we’ll discuss why this model consistently yields better results, and what’s necessary to transform to work like the best.”

    Marty’s Bio: Marty Cagan is the founding partner of the Silicon Valley Product Group, which he created to pursue his interests in helping others create successful products through his writing, speaking, advising and coaching. Before starting SVPG, Marty served as an executive responsible for defining and building products for some of the most successful companies in the world, including Hewlett-Packard, Netscape Communications, and eBay.As part of his work with SVPG, Marty advises tech companies of all sizes and stages, stretching far beyond Silicon Valley. Marty is the author of the industry-leading book for product teams, INSPIRED: How To Create Tech Products Customers Love, and the upcoming book EMPOWERED: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Products. Marty is an invited speaker at major conferences and top companies across the globe.
     
  • See talks from the last month and beyond here.​

About the Author

Phyl Terry

Phyl Terry, Founder and CEO of Collaborative Gain, Inc., launched the company’s flagship leadership program – The Councils – in 2002 with a fellow group of Internet pioneers from Amazon, Google, and others. Thousands of leaders from the Internet world have come together in the last 15 years to learn the art of asking for help and to support each other to build better, more customer-centric products, services, and companies.

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